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Another ID request
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Malcolm
2013-06-08 07:26:38 UTC
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This fish skull was found on a local beach and I would appreciate help
in its ID.

It has a small beard-like appendage which is what cod and its relatives
like ling have, but the photos I've found of their skulls show much more
regular teeth. Monkfish has been suggested, but the skull is,
apparently, very narrow.

www.indaal.demon.co.uk/Mystery.htm

Thanks
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Malcolm
Liz
2013-06-08 09:30:45 UTC
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Some idea of size would be good but from the surroundings it doesn't
look particularly small.
Whatever it is, those look very much like predator teeth.

Maybe worth starting here?:
<http://www.fishbase.org/identification/specieslist.php?famcode=183&areacode=&spines=&fins=&c_code=>

If the skull has been taken into captivity then it might be worth
extracting the otoliths, if still present, for ID.

Sorry can't be more help.

Liz
Post by Malcolm
This fish skull was found on a local beach and I would appreciate help
in its ID.
It has a small beard-like appendage which is what cod and its relatives
like ling have, but the photos I've found of their skulls show much more
regular teeth. Monkfish has been suggested, but the skull is,
apparently, very narrow.
www.indaal.demon.co.uk/Mystery.htm
Thanks
Malcolm
2013-06-08 16:55:17 UTC
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Post by Liz
Post by Malcolm
This fish skull was found on a local beach and I would appreciate help
in its ID.
It has a small beard-like appendage which is what cod and its relatives
like ling have, but the photos I've found of their skulls show much more
regular teeth. Monkfish has been suggested, but the skull is,
apparently, very narrow.
www.indaal.demon.co.uk/Mystery.htm
Thanks
Some idea of size would be good but from the surroundings it doesn't
look particularly small.
Whatever it is, those look very much like predator teeth.
<http://www.fishbase.org/identification/specieslist.php?famcode=183&area
code=&spines=&fins=&c_code=>
If the skull has been taken into captivity then it might be worth
extracting the otoliths, if still present, for ID.
Sorry can't be more help.
Liz
Thanks for the link, Liz, which I will explore.

Unfortunately, the person who took the photograph and which appeared on
Facebook didn't record the size, but I will ask, and left the skull
where she found it.
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Malcolm
Malcolm
2013-06-08 20:49:48 UTC
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Post by Malcolm
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Post by Malcolm
This fish skull was found on a local beach and I would appreciate help
in its ID.
It has a small beard-like appendage which is what cod and its relatives
like ling have, but the photos I've found of their skulls show much more
regular teeth. Monkfish has been suggested, but the skull is,
apparently, very narrow.
www.indaal.demon.co.uk/Mystery.htm
Thanks
Some idea of size would be good but from the surroundings it doesn't
look particularly small.
Whatever it is, those look very much like predator teeth.
<http://www.fishbase.org/identification/specieslist.php?famcode=183&area
code=&spines=&fins=&c_code=>
If the skull has been taken into captivity then it might be worth
extracting the otoliths, if still present, for ID.
Sorry can't be more help.
Liz
Thanks for the link, Liz, which I will explore.
Unfortunately, the person who took the photograph and which appeared on
Facebook didn't record the size, but I will ask, and left the skull
where she found it.
The skull is reported to have been about 12-14 inches long.
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Malcolm
Liz
2013-06-08 21:54:19 UTC
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Post by Malcolm
This fish skull was found on a local beach and I would appreciate help
in its ID.
It has a small beard-like appendage which is what cod and its relatives
like ling have, but the photos I've found of their skulls show much more
regular teeth. Monkfish has been suggested, but the skull is,
apparently, very narrow.
www.indaal.demon.co.uk/Mystery.htm
Thanks
Some idea of size would be good but from the surroundings it doesn't
look particularly small.
Whatever it is, those look very much like predator teeth.
<http://www.fishbase.org/identification/specieslist.php?famcode=183&area
code=&spines=&fins=&c_code=>
If the skull has been taken into captivity then it might be worth
extracting the otoliths, if still present, for ID.
Sorry can't be more help.
Liz
Thanks for the link, Liz, which I will explore.
Unfortunately, the person who took the photograph and which appeared
on Facebook didn't record the size, but I will ask, and left the skull
where she found it.
The skull is reported to have been about 12-14 inches long.
Ah, that's quite large - should help eliminate a few species then!
Bob Hobden
2013-06-08 11:17:46 UTC
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This fish skull was found on a local beach and I would appreciate help in
its ID.
It has a small beard-like appendage which is what cod and its relatives
like ling have, but the photos I've found of their skulls show much more
regular teeth. Monkfish has been suggested, but the skull is, apparently,
very narrow.
www.indaal.demon.co.uk/Mystery.htm
It looks to me as if the skull is upside down in which case the appendage is
on the top lip, the teeth are certainly of a predator, Angler Fish perhaps?
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Regards. Bob Hobden.
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Liz
2013-06-08 11:47:15 UTC
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Post by Malcolm
This fish skull was found on a local beach and I would appreciate help
in its ID.
It has a small beard-like appendage which is what cod and its
relatives like ling have, but the photos I've found of their skulls
show much more regular teeth. Monkfish has been suggested, but the
skull is, apparently, very narrow.
www.indaal.demon.co.uk/Mystery.htm
It looks to me as if the skull is upside down in which case the
appendage is on the top lip, the teeth are certainly of a predator,
Angler Fish perhaps?
No, it's definitely the correct way up Bob. You can see the nasal
cavity, angulation of the jaw, and vertebral attachment are correct for
it to be dorsal side uppermost in the photo.
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